Me: Jesse you know how a Kmiecik argues. Do not engage.
Jesse: Disengage! Disengage! Yeah, they don't listen and eventually just get pissed. Actually, are they trump supporters, though?
Me: No shit- don't you remember Becca's shitposting? lol
Jesse: Nah unfriended her a while back. Still, I believe in polite discourse. Which is the crux of this particular argument, unfortunately.
Me: At least A______ and T____ are more calculated- Kmieciks are everywhere like bird shit!!! lol
Jesse: Who?
Me: lol gals I've been in-boxing- one more conservative, the other more liberal.
Jesse: Ah, balanced I guess.
Me: At Wilmington, I had a history professor that said that if you succeed in pissing off a Catholic and a Quaker at the same time, you're great at screwing shit up- though that comment was more in reference to something about the leadup to the English Civil War. But yeah, I gotta stop basing my political and religious beliefs off what women want me to think.
Jesse: Woman don't want you to think anything Aaron. Much like human beings, they discuss things with people and try to persuade them.
Me: In the words of George, are you here? Are you on this planet? Though in a sense you've gone over sea to Valinor. Guys just talk about girls and videogames- it's boring.
Jesse: If you think all women are trying to manipulate you, you're like Ar-pharazon listening to Sauron, getting on a ship, and rapidly decreasing the value of real estate in Numenor. Also, that last bit is untrue and sexist towards men.
Me: Check your privilege lol. It is true though about the average guy. We weren't average. If it's Sauron I'm listening to, I'm not sure who or what would be the role of Sauron.
Jesse: I'm legitimately concerned about these gender views you have. You're very paranoid about women, and have a lot of ideas about some masculine idea that you don't fit into (cause it doesn't exist). Also, Sauron is the patriarchy. I typed that with a straight face. But, you believe women always try to manipulate you. Yet you also think you should pursue them at every opportunity. Even when you obviously don't like them.
Me: Not every opportunity.
Jesse: Yeah, I don't know your life. But, I haven't heard you mention having friendships with these or other women. This reinforces a negative view of women, because your interactions have all kinds of negative baggage that you bring with you. Wow, sorry this is getting very accusatory and personal, I didn't mean for that. I was just in an argumentative mood cause Bobby commented on my status but then didn't respond to my reply.
Me: Active pursuit of several opportunities (yet not all opportunities) is how I've always been. The paranoia came later. And I do have friendships with some of these present and past women- it just depends on specific things within each instance of relating. It's good that you're confronting me.
Jesse: I suppose it's something I felt needed to be brought up. You complain about women you say you are talking to or interested in, which is kind of ridiculous. Complaining about a partner is a time-honored tradition of all genders and sexualities, but why complain about someone you aren't in any way tied to? Your time is worth more than that.
Me: I'd contend that emotional development in a relationship is asynchronous at first and a woman may have feelings but don't want to show it. An emotional investment is made even in a friendship and escalates as the relationship escalates and meets its denouement. If me and so and so were nothing, why would some have a negative opinion of the other women in my life and where my own thoughts deviate from theirs in these parlor tricks we call religion and politics? That is just as strange. I'm accused of cheating before anything ever happens. Some of these girls are paranoid, Jesse. You were lucky.
Jesse: Because they have opinions about religion and politics, which they like to discuss with people, and try to change their minds? Regardless, I think part of the problem is that you keep expecting them to be hiding things from you, including paranoia. And you are valuing yourself very little to waste time on people who actually are irrationally paranoid. Because while I was lucky, I was lucky to find the person I love, I wasn't lucky to find a person who isn't completely bonkers. Most people are not!
Me: And in the process, I've hurt some good ones, smmfh.
Jesse: All people are just trying to live their lives, not going around trying to manipulate everyone. That would be exhausting. I'm not trying to tell you how to feel, but it helps me to take things at face value.
Me: Definitely would make me look stupid though, to take shit at face value. I've tried- dad didn't like it. Part of it was how mom and dad treated my early attempts at hanging out with girls; telling me that they were lowkey trying to make me look like an idiot and shit.
Jesse: I have a strong suspicion that both mom and dad have very negative views on women and relationships, and passed that on to us. But anyway, I'm going to sleep. Good night.
Me: okay.
